Comments on: Jean on Gender Stereotypes http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/ Empowerment through Chess Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:57:01 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: jeff pool http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-25 jeff pool Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:08:48 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/#comment-25 Its like priest said everything is in the mind, perhaps men play better simply because they decided to do better, in all sports confidence is needed. I dont think you need stereotyping to stop you need to give women confidence then they will be better and people will have almost no choice but not to stereotype Its like priest said everything is in the mind, perhaps men play better simply because they decided to do better, in all sports confidence is needed. I dont think you need stereotyping to stop you need to give women confidence then they will be better and people will have almost no choice but not to stereotype

]]> By: Eleanor Barkley http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Eleanor Barkley Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:14:48 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/#comment-20 I'd be interested to see this study with the culture of the females factored in (using a more diverse female sample). I coach a scholastic club where we have kids from several different ethnic backgrounds. Some of the girls have older brothers in the club who are 'stronger' players than they are. It is amazing to see their confidence and abilities crumble when playing their brothers. I think that some of it is role scripting from within the families or culture, which affects their ability to play their 'usual' game. (these girls are from middle eastern families) When these girls play other boys who are American or Asian, they don't have the same problems with confidence. My husband and I coach this club and we try to help the girls with their confidence, which seems to be their biggest limiting factor. I also think that in this situation, the girls really benefit from having a male mentor who believes in their ability, which is something they might not have otherwise. In general, as to gender, I don't think it should make any difference when it comes to performance. One's mental state going into a game can be influenced by many things including sociological role scripting, but this can be overcome. I don't often compete against other women so to me, a chess game is a chess game. I’d be interested to see this study with the culture of the females factored in (using a more diverse female sample). I coach a scholastic club where we have kids from several different ethnic backgrounds. Some of the girls have older brothers in the club who are ’stronger’ players than they are. It is amazing to see their confidence and abilities crumble when playing their brothers. I think that some of it is role scripting from within the families or culture, which affects their ability to play their ‘usual’ game. (these girls are from middle eastern families) When these girls play other boys who are American or Asian, they don’t have the same problems with confidence. My husband and I coach this club and we try to help the girls with their confidence, which seems to be their biggest limiting factor. I also think that in this situation, the girls really benefit from having a male mentor who believes in their ability, which is something they might not have otherwise.
In general, as to gender, I don’t think it should make any difference when it comes to performance. One’s mental state going into a game can be influenced by many things including sociological role scripting, but this can be overcome. I don’t often compete against other women so to me, a chess game is a chess game.

]]> By: Dax Tucker http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Dax Tucker Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:09:09 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/#comment-9 This is indeeed a very intriguing subject. I have read a number of different theories as to why chess is such a male dominated sport including both sociological and biological explinations(e.g., it is very aggressive and war-like, chess is a left brain activity and men supposedly are more spacial oriented and logic minded, etc.) Perhaps, like so many other things in life, it is a combination of reasons both socialogical and biological that there are fewer women involved in chess. Every chess tournament my son and I go to has about a 95% male participation. However, while the fact remains there are fewer women involved in chess, in my opinion this does not mean that women can't perform just as good as men in chess. I am sure that in the future we will begin to see an equal number of both men and women playing chess. And I think organizations such as yours will play a big role in this by bringing more women to the table so that they too can experience the intrinsic values and joys of chess. This is indeeed a very intriguing subject. I have read a number of different theories as to why chess is such a male dominated sport including both sociological and biological explinations(e.g., it is very aggressive and war-like, chess is a left brain activity and men supposedly are more spacial oriented and logic minded, etc.) Perhaps, like so many other things in life, it is a combination of reasons both socialogical and biological that there are fewer women involved in chess. Every chess tournament my son and I go to has about a 95% male participation. However, while the fact remains there are fewer women involved in chess, in my opinion this does not mean that women can’t perform just as good as men in chess. I am sure that in the future we will begin to see an equal number of both men and women playing chess. And I think organizations such as yours will play a big role in this by bringing more women to the table so that they too can experience the intrinsic values and joys of chess.

]]> By: Deb http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Deb Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:41:09 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/#comment-7 I haven't read the complete paper, only the abstract. But I did read a paper written in 2005 " Why Do Women Underperform Under Stereotype Threat? Evidence for the Role of Negative Thinking" co-authored by Anne Maass (Psychological Science, 16, 572-578. ) that is similar in nature. I know when playing chess on the internet under a female handle, I would sometimes get razzed and it would definitely effect my composure. The more my opponent would harass me about being a “girl” and consequently not a good chessplayer , the more I felt the pressure to prove him wrong…( Which I did sometimes and sometimes didn’t.) I haven’t read the complete paper, only the abstract. But I did read a paper written in 2005 ” Why Do Women Underperform
Under Stereotype Threat? Evidence for the Role of Negative Thinking” co-authored by Anne Maass (Psychological Science, 16, 572-578. ) that is similar in nature.

I know when playing chess on the internet under a female handle, I would sometimes get razzed and it would definitely effect my composure. The more my opponent would harass me about being a “girl” and consequently not a good chessplayer , the more I felt the pressure to prove him wrong…( Which I did sometimes and sometimes didn’t.)

]]> By: jshahade http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-6 jshahade Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:22:49 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/#comment-6 I wrote a response to this study on uschess.org, challenging the assumption that women played worse when playing against men. Maybe men just play better? More detailed opinion at: http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8233/343/ Hi D'Angelo, I thought I would never hear from you again. I wrote a response to this study on uschess.org, challenging the assumption that women played worse when playing against men. Maybe men just play better? More detailed opinion at: http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8233/343/

Hi D’Angelo, I thought I would never hear from you again.

]]> By: D'Angelo Barksdale http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/comment-page-1/#comment-5 D'Angelo Barksdale Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:50:11 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/02/13/new-study-about-the-dangers-of-stereotypes/#comment-5 ... the queen... she smart, she fierce. she move any way she want as far she want. and she is the go get sh*t done piece. … the queen… she smart, she fierce. she move any way she want as far she want. and she is the go get sh*t done piece.

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