Comments on: Single-sex education, girls’ academies, and “Alien” the movie http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/ Empowerment through Chess Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:49:11 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Girls Schools http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-7505 Girls Schools Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:38:25 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/#comment-7505 Girls academies provide outstanding educational opportunities to students through an exceptional academic program that fosters critical thinking, independence and strong problem solving skills. These learning centers have an excellent academic record and outstanding resources. These schools encourage girls to follow their dreams by offering opportunities for life. Girls strive for personal excellence in academic and vocational programs, the Arts, sport and co curricular activities. http://www.girlschools.net/ Girls academies provide outstanding educational opportunities to students through an exceptional academic program that fosters critical thinking, independence and strong problem solving skills. These learning centers have an excellent academic record and outstanding resources. These schools encourage girls to follow their dreams by offering opportunities for life. Girls strive for personal excellence in academic and vocational programs, the Arts, sport and co curricular activities.

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]]> By: f http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-7504 f Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:51:39 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/#comment-7504 the most interesting part of Weil’s article was the thought experiment suggested by Giedd on page four. you wouldn’t want to assign kids to gendered locker rooms on the basis of height — and likewise we shouldn’t assign them to different math classes on the basis of gender. the trend may be there but it’s so slight (differces between sexes being only one standard deviation) that any benefits would be offset by unwanted side-effects. http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/ the most interesting part of Weil’s article was the thought experiment suggested by Giedd on page four. you wouldn’t want to assign kids to gendered locker rooms on the basis of height — and likewise we shouldn’t assign them to different math classes on the basis of gender. the trend may be there but it’s so slight (differces between sexes being only one standard deviation) that any benefits would be offset by unwanted side-effects.

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]]> By: Carlos MInjarez http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-34 Carlos MInjarez Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:51:05 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/#comment-34 It a very interesting article but the natural world really teaches us that females are different than males in regard to the roles in hunting. In the lioness by example, the female lion always go to hunt first to bring food their cubs. Similarly in humans in most parts of the world females normally cooks at home. The study of this article also brings our attention in how the emotions play their role. When girl "knows" that the players it's a boy automatically reacts to underperforms in chess. That's right they’re a point to understand why females are different than males. It a very interesting article but the natural world really teaches us that females are different than males in regard to the roles in hunting. In the lioness by example, the female lion always go to hunt first to bring food their cubs. Similarly in humans in most parts of the world females normally cooks at home. The study of this article also brings our attention in how the emotions play their role. When girl “knows” that the players it’s a boy automatically reacts to underperforms in chess. That’s right they’re a point to understand why females are different than males.

]]> By: yoshi64 http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-32 yoshi64 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:37:26 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/#comment-32 well it's not the kind of news that is worth discussing. i wonder why are you all here so excited? well it’s not the kind of news that is worth discussing. i wonder why are you all here so excited?

]]> By: Marguerite http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-31 Marguerite Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:53:27 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/#comment-31 Oh man! Are you all still here? I thought this is not an interesting topic anymore! Visit other sources! Oh man! Are you all still here? I thought this is not an interesting topic anymore! Visit other sources!

]]> By: sam http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-12 sam Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:18:56 +0000 http://9queens.org/2008/03/04/single-sex-education-girls-academies-and-alien-the-movie/#comment-12 agreed single-sex education seems dubious .. the notion that the sexes are born different, and that when boys and girls behave differently that's why, and that education needs to be tailored to this. in most cases the reverse is true. it seems like years of studies have failed to find significant measurable differences between the sexes, and my guess is that where they do exist it's because we've been teaching kids to think that way. (or maybe because humans are wired to form groups to exclude each other but again that shouldn't be encouraged.) the most interesting part of Weil's article was the thought experiment suggested by Giedd on page four. you wouldn't want to assign kids to gendered locker rooms on the basis of height -- and likewise we shouldn't assign them to different math classes on the basis of gender. the trend may be there but it's so slight (differces between sexes being only one standard deviation) that any benefits would be offset by unwanted side-effects. there are definitely exceptions to this, as you say when the potential to dismantle outweighs the potential to reinforce gender stereotypes. The TYWLS school described in the article seems like it could be a case of this, probably much more common with girls than boys. another exception is when girls/parents are free to decide for themselves, eg attending an after-school program or university. w/r/t a couple points from the other side, I'm not sure that since six-year olds 'want' to be separated we should indulge them. I definitely would've preferred an all-boys class when I was six because I thought girls were gross. in hindsight I'm glad it was co-ed. (and conversely I would have preferred an all-girls class when I was eighteen but again for the wrong reasons.) I'm not sure what to say about the data indicating that single-sex schools do better. It seems plausible that other factors distort the trends, for example a correlation with 'pro-academic' parents as suggested by Weil on page eight, or maybe it's that single-sex classes get a 'bump' because they're new programs and the teachers are more driven. not sure. jean did you see this article from the washington post? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/29/AR2008022902992.html pretty incredible agreed single-sex education seems dubious .. the notion that the sexes are born different, and that when boys and girls behave differently that’s why, and that education needs to be tailored to this. in most cases the reverse is true. it seems like years of studies have failed to find significant measurable differences between the sexes, and my guess is that where they do exist it’s because we’ve been teaching kids to think that way. (or maybe because humans are wired to form groups to exclude each other but again that shouldn’t be encouraged.)

the most interesting part of Weil’s article was the thought experiment suggested by Giedd on page four. you wouldn’t want to assign kids to gendered locker rooms on the basis of height — and likewise we shouldn’t assign them to different math classes on the basis of gender. the trend may be there but it’s so slight (differces between sexes being only one standard deviation) that any benefits would be offset by unwanted side-effects.

there are definitely exceptions to this, as you say when the potential to dismantle outweighs the potential to reinforce gender stereotypes. The TYWLS school described in the article seems like it could be a case of this, probably much more common with girls than boys. another exception is when girls/parents are free to decide for themselves, eg attending an after-school program or university.

w/r/t a couple points from the other side, I’m not sure that since six-year olds ‘want’ to be separated we should indulge them. I definitely would’ve preferred an all-boys class when I was six because I thought girls were gross. in hindsight I’m glad it was co-ed. (and conversely I would have preferred an all-girls class when I was eighteen but again for the wrong reasons.)

I’m not sure what to say about the data indicating that single-sex schools do better. It seems plausible that other factors distort the trends, for example a correlation with ‘pro-academic’ parents as suggested by Weil on page eight, or maybe it’s that single-sex classes get a ‘bump’ because they’re new programs and the teachers are more driven. not sure.

jean did you see this article from the washington post?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/29/AR2008022902992.html
pretty incredible

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